- Lawyer: Did he rape her?
- Witness: Yes, but she was drunk and passed out.
- Lawyer: That's not what I asked. Did he rape her?
- Witness: Yes, but she was wearin-
- Lawyer: I didn't ask what she was wearing. Did he rape her?
- Witness: Yes, but-
- Lawyer: I didn't ask anything else. It's just a simple yes or no answer. Did he rape her?
- Witness: Yes.
- Laywer: Yes, he raped her.
- Rape is rape is rape, no matter the context.
TW: if you believe rape jokes are the sole cause of rape you’re a fucking moronic little twit. Just ignore that part of the screen that talks about “football stars”, this rape happened because of rape jokes, sports/athlete glorification had no part in any of it.
Five times the media took sides in the Steubenville rape case and painted the assailants in a positive light.
You’re still obsessing about this? Is it because you can’t stand that someone had a disagreement with you over the root of these issues?
Yeah, people in this town defended these boys because of sports worship.
Witnesses who were present said that they didn’t even realize what was going on was rape.
Making light of rape is a definite contribution to a culture that takes rape lightly/doesn’t understand the psychological ramifications of rape.
Furthermore, your continual assertion that anyone who thinks this happens solely because of rape jokes is a ‘fucking moronic little twit’ is quite frankly pissing me off because I have a feeling I know who you are referring to and, number one, they never said that rape jokes were the SOLE cause of rape, and number two, you seem to have quite a severe diaper rash over the fact that they don’t agree with your narrative as here you are still making shitty ass statements about it days later.
Do me a favor, if you are following me, please un-follow.
Actually, I’ll do you one better and go ahead and put you on my ignore list, as I have little patience for this kind of bullshit today.
good job azvern, keep trivializing this as an obsession with sports and ignoring rape culture and the things that influence it (yes, rape jokes do, way to passively aggressively disagree though broski). you’re a fucking ignorant ass dick, bro. these things happen all. the. time. and yeah, this might have more coverage because of the rapists’ sports involvement, but these cases play out like this all the fucking time. shut your ignorant fucking trap and listen, for once in your life, to women and rape victims who explain to you why a) what you’re doing (derailing this) is grossly offensive and b) how rape jokes encourage a society to be complacent with the crime of rape and to treat victims as the butt of jokes, to be believed on a rare occasion, to not consider what happened here to be rape. You really like ACTING intelligent, maybe you should try thinking about how rape jokes contribute to rape culture, the culture that inevitably believes what happened to the victim here is hilarious enough to joke about.
tldr; shut the fuck up you fucking tool. no one cares about your personal war to defend rape jokes and instead of blaming the rapists, your blame of ‘sports obsession’. get out.
They have done studies. They ask rapists if they think others rape. The overwhelming answer is that rapists think everyone rapes.
Therefore rape jokes tell rapists or those likely to rape that rape is fine. It is funny. It is okay. And that is why we must stop rape jokes. It both trivializes a violent crime and tells the perpetrator their crime is not a crime.
In short… rape jokes are not funny. There is no defense of them.
“Telling every woman to get a gun is not rape prevention. The reality is that we need to be changing how we train and teach young men. We need to teach them to see women as human beings and respect their bodily autonomy. We need to teach them about consent and to hold themselves accountable.””
Not to mention that women are regularly incarcated for defending themselves against violence. While white men get to stand their ground
So what are MRA’s doing about the number of Men of Color in prison? Men of Color are more likely to go directly to jail than white men.
Speaking of prison, they’re not doing anything about the prison rape epidemic despite their arguments that mainstream society invalidates male rape victims’ experiences, minimizes their numbers, etc. They constantly play up female-on-male crime and downplay male-on-male crime.
Thank you! Exactly!